Well, this report is from the News of The World (NOTW), so that’s a warning from the start, but apparently Kevin Keegan was sure Modric would be a Newcastle player on Friday.
Kevin Keegan - apparently furious Newcastle didn’t get Modric
But that didn’t happen due to what looks a little like a bizarre situation on Friday night, but when we all woke up Saturday morning - Modric was a Tottenham player.
A Newcastle source told the NOTW today:
“It was difficult to calm Kevin down, he was furious.”
“It’s a major embarrassment as Kevin felt getting Modric would have been the perfect message to Newcastle fans.”
Luka Modric has been a target for many top clubs, including Chelsea and Arsenal, after his great form for Croatia in their European 2008 qualifying campaign, especially in the game against England last November, when Croatia won 3-2.
It looks like the player was willing to sign for Newcastle, but there was no deal sealed between the clubs since they could never agree on the actual fee. But there’s no doubt Newcastle were ahead in the race until Friday.
But, somehow Spurs stepped in to pinch the player at the last minute, and we still have no idea what actually happened.
We feel that Newcastle will be even more keen sign a top player to get the transfer season off to a good start.
The Modric events are now water under the bridge, unfortunately, but we’d still like to know what happened - it may be something the club can learn from for the future.
It’s not often you are close to signing a world class 22 year-old, who wants to come to your club.
Who should we be going for as our first signing?
Let us know - comments welcome.
257 responses so far ↓
1 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:13
it just annoys me reading these comments
2 Bucks1985 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:16
It’s the ‘News of the World’… Dare I say more!
3 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:16
that’s good, atleast the next person of same or bigger stature will not slip thru our hands. to make up for this, we will sign someone big
4 gonufc // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:18
Diego!!!! Would love him even more than modric. If this is true then it reflects well on Keegan, makes him sound really upset that he’s let down the fans.
5 ash // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:19
well i’m furious too!!
6 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:20
to appease the fans if i was mort i’d be pushing for the contract negotiations with owen and taylor and others to be wrapped up quickly. that would make a statement esp owen’s contract
7 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPCZVP3zUls
8 iain // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:21
whether what the NOW says about keegan being true or not the whole situation has made us look like right idiots (again). and gives the press tons of ammo for stories about keegans relationship with wise etc.
9 Simon toon fan // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:25
At the end of the day the we were looking to pay 12million for the croatian but spurs eventually paid 15.2 million the next day so i guess money talks and his agent was out to get as much as possible how else would newcastle more or less state his signature was in the bag on friday. Just shows that newcastle will not be held to ransom and pay over the odds as done previously. I bet the agent of modric contacted the toon before the deal was done to spurs saying you need to up the offer and we said no good on the toon. lets see who we go for next
10 Aggi // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:26
just bring in Arshavin that would certainly calm me down. do believe we could get him alot cheaper plus he is more proven and just as versatile but 4 years older.
11 scottish mag // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:28
just remember modric deal isnt complete yet, can he still change his mind
12 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:28
DIEGO!!! DIEGO!!! DIEGO!!! At least let us try for him! I would laugh if we missed out on Modric to bring in Diego, better player in my book
13 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:28
at least things are looking up.. we are moving forwrd on the pitch. next year if we work hard then win a cup and get into europe
14 ObaFan2 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:29
Very bizzare but we have to move on. KK trusted his scouts/execs to make this deal and it fell through at the last minute (if we believe the press!).
Like I say we have to move on and find the talent we deserve and there’s plenty about who’d want to play for KK, those with ambition anyway.
I agree we have to sort out contracts on the people we have here already, Oba and Owen for starters.
15 MARK // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:29
THIS SITE IS CRAP!! ALWAYS PICKING CRAP FROM PAPERS LIKE THE NEWS OF THE WORLD.. IVE STOPPED READING MOST ARTICLES AS ITS ALL LIES. THE OLD ADDAGE OF “I’LL BELIEVE IT WHEN i SEE IT” SHOULD BE USED. THERES TOO MANY POOR SITES SPECULATING
16 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:29
be sooo funny if the deal to spurs fell through
17 Taiwantoon // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:29
I am glad to learn King Kev is not happy about losing Modric, well, lets assume the story is true itself first…
King Kev certainly would demand more from the recurit team next round and I am sure the recruit team will be eager to prove themselves after the incident, too.
As much as I dislike Mr. Wise due to his colourful playing career, I can not argue with the fact that he is a man with high esteem and he will work very very hard after this.
18 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:30
mark you know what to do then dont ya?
19 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:31
scottish mag; would love it for him to change his mind - the unfortunate reality is that his representatives would lost out on a few extra coffers, the greedy swines
20 Dondatta13 // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:32
VAN DER VAART, VAN DER VAART, VAN DER VAART ………. did I mention VAN DER VAART? now go get lol
21 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:32
rw and lw guys any suggestions?
need to improve quality on both sides, esp with duff still in hibernation and milner not improving his intelligence
22 scottish mag // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:32
yeah but can he still back out of the deal having agreed terms or is that final even though deal isnt complete
23 Tooner // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:33
Geordie Gerrard,
Since he was in the stands yesterday for Tottenham’s game, I really doubt it will fall through.
24 Danny // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:34
It really pisses me off this like….
I am just as angry as it sounds keegan was…And just to sum up how much this has pissed me off I would rather Modric went to bloody Scumderland than to bloody tottenham!
He will never become a better player with them f**king lot….
I was soo excited when i thought we were getting him….If you had asked me all season which player would you sign if i was newcastle manager I would of said luka modric!!!
Im not gonna kid myself and say that other players are better and the he wasnt that good anyway because he is f***ing awesome!
I know I sound a bit pathetic but this has really f**in ruined my season and weekend!
He would have been f^^in class for us !
25 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:34
agree with Geordie Gerrard last comment - if this has been our new recruitment that has fallen short, KK will be furious, however, if that is the case then Ashley is also chance to be furious - i think they will want to make amends for this farce - need to do it soon though, great time to be signing players now
26 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:34
i want aguero.. he tore real madrid asunder this season huhu
woops sorry i meant barcelona
http://www.footytube.com/2008/03/02/atletico-madrid-4-2-barcelona/
27 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:36
rw - SWP or Lennon? i would add Bentley, but that may be out of the question??? thoughts?
28 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:38
i would love these to be famous last words, but we have no chance in signing Sergio Aguero
29 D.C. // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:39
I sense a panic buy coming.
30 scottish mag // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:39
we should just raid bremen hsv and zaragoza, get diogo, aimar and milito from zaragoza, kompany, de jong and van der vaart from hsv and naldo, mertesacker and diego from bremen
gk.given/harper
cb.naldo
cb.kompany
cb.mertesacker
rwb. diogo
lwb.enrique
cm.de jong
am.vaart
am.diego
am.aimar
st.milito
bench:
gk. given/harper
rwb. beye
cm. barton
am/st owen
st. martins
ofcourse i am joking, but would be good
31 craig chisholm // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:39
yeah i know its the news of the world but i can believe it this time. we lost him cos newc offered 12.7 million and they wanted over 15. our board cost us the deal. mort is a bean cruncher at the end of the day. getting REAL money out of him is going to be like getting blood out of a stone. thats twice mort has emabrassed us now cos of his tight arsed ways, woody and modric. he is costing us credability.
32 Nasher // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:40
I know It’s a long shot but if ac milan and man city have cooled interest for ronaldinho what are your thoughts on him guys. I have agreed on not bringing in a statement signing but surely he is better than our current crop?
33 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:42
this is the match working link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9GFFMd8iRA
34 Nick C // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:44
Craig, Woodgate just decided he wanted to play for Tottenham instead of NUFC. Hardly Mort’s fault. The Modric situation is bizarre. Its hard to point the finger until we know the full story.
35 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:44
time will tell craig - you never know, they may pump 50m+ into transfers this summer proving otherwise - fingers and toes crossed eh
36 Shaz // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:45
good luck keeping owen if no decent players come to your small club.
37 Graham // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:45
Craig - Woodgate wanted to go to surs - get your facts straight before spounting off!
38 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:45
yea this end of season we got no chance of signing aguero or any of the good names u guys mentioned. im sure the gaffer and his team will give it a go.
39 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6z2sa0KRIg
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITxkJqZ2BQ
or both
40 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITxkJqZ2BQ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITxkJqZ2BQ please.
41 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:50
Montolivo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITxkJqZ2BQ
Katsouranis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sITxkJqZ2BQ please.
42 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:50
this is a thought exercise..
say we signed someone big, how many shirts printed sales in that players name would finance it?
van der vaart paid by letter would be good.
hehe
43 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:51
I have had time to think about this and i would like to thank ED for all the information on this situation, but i think we should put this whole situation behind us now and move on please. We are in good form now and we can finally get some positive articles coming out about us. Modric would have been a class signing, but it wasn’t meant to be. I suggest we (including you Ed) let it go now otherwise it will be torture when we have to watch this guy in Euro 2008, and even worse, when he pulls on a Tottenham shirt and plays well against us, because rest assured this will happen.
Look at the positives of this.
- The board are looking for a top class CM to be the engine of our team
- We are not leaving it late to become active with transfers
- The board are looking in the right places for talent.
- We are offering considerable amounts in transfer fees
- And we are no longer being held to ransom for wages, transfer fees etc.
I feel all of the above are better than one single class player, and i have said it before anyway, Modric is not one of a kind
44 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:55
Blackburn to Newcastle Alan Shearer signed by keegan.
A similar move would be though not as great but still quality.
Guess who?
45 Mark (not the one that typed in caps) // Apr 27, 2008 at 16:57
as if that quote is actually real
“It was difficult to calm Kevin down, he was furious.â€
lol calm him down? were they all locked in a room together waiting on this transfer to go through (not training with the first team ahead of the match on sat)
Van der Vaary please. =p montolivo is pretty damn good aswell.
that diego fella is alot like emre imo (a better version)
point is: theres plenty of other players we can get that are more than adequate. one signing slipping away from us isn’t the end of the world.
46 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:00
spyro, i think even if i split with my missus i wouldnt be a gutted as coming on here on saturday morning to say i was looking forward to the game, ohhhh and up pops spurs have signed modric. GUTTED.lol.
but i think we do need to let go and look at the positives
47 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:03
Also, lets not forget that before this news of Modric even came out none of us even thought we had a chance of landing such a player. This shows the board are indeed ambitious, but just not to the classless levels of Tottenham. A team that ruthlessly sacked a manager that got them 5th place (unknown territory for the mid-table team that they are) TWO YEARS IN A ROW just because of a poor start to the season.
48 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:03
agree with Spyro here, there are positives to be taken out of a very frustrating situation
49 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:03
All this Modric talk is getting on my nerves.
There is no completely legitimate truth we were even in for him.
Also, how do we know we werent on the verge of signing, Romario, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Maradona and other great players or ledgends that werent published in the papers.
50 ELFER // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:11
Not so unhappy the deal broke down…but what makes me feared is that KK is furious and maybe the signing team has now pressure and makes overpaid moves…I really really hope this won’t be the case!
51 Danny // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPN_LMA2tyA
This will help us all get over it….Still devastated!
He would have meant more to us than he ever will to a spurs fan!!
52 Jack // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:13
next time there is transfer news im going to be completely negative so if we sign the player i will be surprised and if we dont i wont be disappointed
53 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:21
wathing that vid of van der vaart,pure class
54 Dondatta13 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:21
If we were to sign Van der Vaart …. he would become our black n white Van man lol causing havoc on premiership defences. Turning left when everyone thinks he’s going to turn right, speeding, with a blatent disregard for anyones (premiership) saftey ! lol Go sign the B&W Van man ……. man lol
55 Danny // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:25
Glad you like it Geordie Gerrard…he is some player like…I think he wants to go to chelsea but the same could have been said about modric!
Lets just ope he is on Wise or keegans list!!!
I really cant shake the disappointment yet!!
He would have been soo class….Lets hope that any player we get instead is just as good….Im totally gonna boo Modric next season wether its his fault or not!! lol
56 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:29
i just hope it doesnt go through, but there again im clutching straws, we do need someone like van der vaart. perhaps keegans old hamburg days will help us get such a great player. I really would like arshavin, qaulity. we need two creative midfielders and a defensive midfielder if we keep playing 4-3-3
57 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:30
infact i wouldnt midnd arteta either
58 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:35
GG7, its the other way round. To play 4-3-3 you need 2 DM’s and 1 AM.
59 Danny // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:35
Van Der Vaart, Taye Taiwo, Jeremy Toulalan and Vincent Kompany and we would qualify for Europe….Along with our current form of course!
60 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:37
no you dont atal, you could pick either or. we need 2 attacking midfielders as we have zero, that could mean rotating them or playing both in some games, the defensive midfielder to challenge barton and butt for place, but i cannot see who kk would go for as a dm
61 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:39
cant see jeremy toulalon coming, but he is probably the best dm around atm, yes we would qaulify for europe with them, but highly unlikely
62 figsdad // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:40
Trust me our next big signing going to be Berbatov…
thats what this 25mil signing is…
63 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:42
yeah right on.
64 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:45
also i would never watch another game if there is any truth in the johnson rumour, he is shocking
65 Danny // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:47
Yeah know we would never get toulalan but for some reason im obsessed with him at the minute….
Like keegan said though he doesnt want people to say…”we cant get them players”…lets say “why not” instead….
Even if it is in vain haha
66 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:49
ok Danny, then let’s talk about us signing Messi, lmfao
67 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:50
lol, add gareth barry to this list of ours, pure class. anyone watching everton v blue scouse game? its a cracker.
68 ToonDaft // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:53
aye the last ten mins have been amazing havent they
69 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:55
the whole game apart from the last 10 amaising minutes was dire
70 Leo // Apr 27, 2008 at 17:58
yeah the talk of modric is getting me down now, dont like thinking them smelly cnuts beat us again
although its what happens on the fields that mattters. 4-1
71 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:01
HAS SPURS SIGNED MODRIC OR NOT ?
72 ToonKing // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:05
oh damn….. another day ruined by this news.
73 Lenny // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:09
well i heard that we had a 18.5m bid turned down for Modric….
74 Geordie Lumberjack // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:21
I too rate Diego over Modric. But, do you think we can get him? Are NUFC big enough?
Diego supplying Owen and Martins? Deadly. I would love it! LOVE IT!
75 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:21
NUFC are there own worst enemy, sometimes i feel we are the laughing stock of the country, seems to me M.Ashley is reluctant to spend money i even get the feeling he is trying to do Spurs a favour with what happenned wit Woody and now Modric. We need a big big signing to excite the fans and players like DIEGO,VAN DER VAART, ARSHIVAN would do the job nicely but this needs to be NOW.
76 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:22
toonking- what you mean?
77 Toon4Life // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:29
GET IN ARSHAVIN!!!!
PREFERABLY BEFORE THE EUROS WHEN HIS PRICE WILL ROCKET.
78 ToonKing // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:37
yesterday was ruined by the news that Modric joined the sperms and now this to top it off
79 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:41
Is KK annoyed with his scouting staff or annoyed with the fact that he lost out on MODRIC.
80 GazzaToon // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:43
you guys need to stop posting videos from youtube on here!!! a few clips of a player does not make them a great player.. im sure we could all find some clips of titus bramble making 1 or 2 good tackles in his career!!! and also stop speculating on players y would van der vart come to us what can we offer him? what we need to do is sign good unknown players cuz we wont b able to get any of the players your mentioning as they will all want european football which we will not b offering next season!!
81 scottish mag // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:45
just remember arshavin said that he would love to move to the toon b4 fat sam got sacked, so he would probably still want to but we need to get the bid in ow 10m would get him for definate but wot about DINIYAR BILYALETDINOV of lokomotiv moscow, he is a versatile player and can play on the left wing, in the center of the pitch or in his most comfortable position, just behind the strikers as an attacking midfielder. He possesses a good scoring rate and good passing but he is best known for his dribbling and pace. 19 goals in 111 games for lokomotiv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmMjkmkf5Q
82 ChrisL // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:46
“A Newcastle source” = We were short on news & made up this story.
83 nightfall // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:49
i think kev & co saying they will spend BIG was/is a mistake…’cos clubs will want more money from us…
our team probably tried to repair that by showing other clubs we won’t be held for ransom by not agreeing total modic’s fee, but now if keegan was furious..well that can’t be good…i think there’s a lack of communication among our staff…
84 ronaldeano // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:51
FOOK MODRIC! He is shite anyway!!!!
Stop talking about him because he is also a extreemly UGLY mother f**ker anyway
85 nightfall // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:53
GazzaToon - agree, but kev wants stars and wise & co. want unknown players…
86 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:53
Realistic targets
1.Crouch
2.Pennant
3.Riise
4.Bridge
5.Shorey
6.SWP
7.Sidwell
Not realistic
1.Diego
2.Arshivan
3.Van Der Vaart
4.Bentley
5.Henry
6.Berbatov
87 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 18:57
Arshavin is realistic and id only want SWP out of those.
88 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:00
Tom toon i agree with you about my REALISTIC LIST SWP is the only player i would take but them are the players i think would be available and the best we can hope for as for ARSHIVAN would love him here but a little out of reach at the moment.
89 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:02
blah blah blah,get a grip you bunch of northern retards,get over it he went to a better club with far more ambition thats all it comes down to,some of you say spurs have no class?take a look closer to home & look how your club go abouts it business?did you see modric at wembley?different class
90 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:05
I think this is the best available side to us all the players are realistic and would give us a good balance in all areas:
———————Given—————————
—Beye—Taylor———-Faye—Bridge—–
-Wright-Phillips–Barton–Veloso–McGeady-
—————–Owen———Crouch—————–
Subs: Harper, Edgar, Enrique, Milner, Emre, Martins, Viduka
91 ToonKing // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:08
Craigg, i highly doubt we have the slightest chance of getting Veloso.
92 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:09
CRAIGG that is a good side mate.
93 Andy1 // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:09
Arshavin and any other players from crap leagues are realistic targets and we should at least put bids in. If they are so good that there is major competition from better teams we might not get them and we’ll have to accpet that. Tottenham beat us to a couple of players, but outside the top four we are still probably the most attractive team.
Elano and Petrov went to Man City who had nothing to offer and had finished even lower the season before. Daniel Carvalho and the other good players in Russia would probably want to come to England. Don’t really know any but there are good players in that league.
Personally, I’d take Crouch. Whenever he plays he scores and he or Ashton would be a nice improvement on Viduka.
94 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:12
On another subject i think we could raid Valencia a bit in the summer
Albiol
Joaquin
Caneira
Albelda
Vicente
All would be useful as starters or squad players covering positions where we need it.
95 Nick C // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:14
Crouch would be a great signing, but I think he might be off to join his old china down at Pompey. If Ashton wasn’t so injury prone I would love him. Wouldn’t it be nice to nick Jones off the Mackems?
Arca as well would be a good bet.
96 Fernando // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:16
Lets beat CHELSEA, that will make a huge headline and statement! everyone will hear of NEWCASTLE UNITED and Keegan. Players will be inspired to join us!
The best scenario would be Man Utd loses as well next weekend. So we’d give them a lifeline!
Do u guys agree?
97 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:20
adie skyers- Northern retards check out the education figures in the north it pisses on you brainless scum down south.
Ill tell you what were classy peformances you cockney w****r the last 5 times weve played your s***e side winning every one and we will do the same next season.
Modric or not he will be wasted in you side anyway, either wide left or in the middle with the mighty Jenas, Ghaly, Zokora or Tainio yipee!
A quality player like that cannot make your shambolic joke side a top team.
98 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:20
problem is craigg, every other top side will be looking to raid Valencia and sevilla this summer.
I think we could get Veloso and McGeady, and if we did they would surely make up for missing out on Modric.
99 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:23
St-Huntalaar
Lb-Bridge
Cm/AM-Van Der Vaart + Veloso
Cb-Van Buyten
Mighten be realistic but that is who I’d go for, although don’t know about Van Buyten. Any thoughts?
100 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:25
CB - Bruno Alves
RB/LB - Seitaridis
DM - Katsouranis
AM - Montolivo
RW/LW - SWP
ST - Pandev
101 Nasher // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:27
Hey guys just wondered if anyone read my post on ronaldinho above? And what are your thoughts? P.s what mcgeady like
102 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:27
Yep thats true but Vetere and Jiminez’ contacts in Spain should give us the edge on that matter.
I think Veloso would be a better signing than Modric as he would give us a perfect balance with Barton in the middle
What do you think of the side i said above, i think that could be a great side and all are pretty realistic IMO
103 toonoholic // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:28
Realistic targets
1.Crouch - what for
2.Pennant- crap
3.Riise-crapper
4.Bridge- no use
5.Shorey- maybe
6.SWP- only guy to take club forward
7.Sidwell- haha
I am so dissapointed we lost out on modric
i have a gut feeling , its going to be another sad transfer window .
btw ED ,great job on the site . i am addict to this site though i hardly post.
104 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:28
craiggy boy,i tell you what?we will do a swap those 6 points for the carling cup?how about it lol,listen to yourselfs,1 moronic comment after another,modric is this,spurs are that,diego is better than modric anyway lol,this is priceless,
modric hes a yiddo
105 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:30
Ronaldinho would be amazing but i cannot imagine bigger clubs not jumping in as soon as we try and negotiate as much as it would be great
106 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:32
Nasher, Ronaldinho definitly has the skill and ability no question about that but the question is if he would want to play and give it everything, or would he just be a trophy signing because Barca wouldn’t let him leave unless he was past it
107 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:34
Do you thick bastards not know you offend a lot of people when you talk about Yids
i cant imagine you retards know what it means
Mate the carling cup is about as important to the top clubs as our Intertoto cup from last season, totally irrelevant!
108 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:35
Ronaldinho is past it. The fat buck-toothed rabbit.
109 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:39
I would agree wit you there tom tom. Another potential money grabbing ‘Emre’ f##k head
110 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:40
feck off you smelly yid jew cnut
111 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:40
craig just the answer i expected from a supporter of the self proclaimed big club that never wins anything,we get slaughtered down south by goons & rentboys but at least from time to time we actually win something,our club has had its shambolic moments but its nothing compared to the goerdie circus that runs & runs
112 Nick C // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:41
Adie, do one off our site. I imagine you live in some non entity hell hole like Stevenage and have attached yourself to your ahem local club.
We can take grief off proper clubs supporters like the Arsenal, but not off Chas n Dave loving tossers like you.
113 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:45
i forgot spurs qaulity realy, fare play. gone and smashed your salary cap and no doubt season budget for an eastern european, when really you need your defence sorted you go and sign shite players like darren bent. qaulity. and berba doesnt even want to be there, bless him. he wishes he was at gods club, and used to see himself as a geordie
114 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:47
It is a good side, but i would rather have enrique continuing in left back with Bridge as back up.
115 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:48
i will leave you self proclaimed big club,greatest fans to talk about all your fantasy signings coming to the circus toon army in the near future,ronaldinho is getting in as we speak?you will win something enventually maybe not in your lifetime,keep dreaming boys & girls it might happen 1 day
116 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:50
Veloso and Barton would be a tough CM for the opposition as both are hard working, great defensively, and have a great vision for a pass. Veloso hasnt got the vision or the ability to use both feet like modric, but he is much better defensively
117 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoTcoA4AlIE&feature=related
Enough said really.
118 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:52
The negotiators trying to play hardball have cost this transfer… They guy wanted us, everyone that officially advised him said he should come to us, but we had to be stubborn and force the price instead of grapping the chance when we could get a world class midfielder…
119 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:52
My point was prick that the Intertoto is about as major as your Milk cup so should we be boasting..No because its embarassing, gloating over a tin pot trophy that no one cares about but each to their own
Whats your main ambition Champions league qualification well been there done that visited the nou camp and the san siro while you dream on.
3rd
6th
2nd
2nd
4th
3rd
5th
3x Champs league qulaifying
6x UEFA Cup qualifying
2x FA Cup Finals
Youre a cup side who average 10th in the premiership. I would rather have a win virtually every week than lose most weeks, finish mid table and win a shitty 3 handled cup
120 Tom_Toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:54
Veloso is very similar to Carrick except better defensively and can take free kicks.
121 american pie // Apr 27, 2008 at 19:56
Money talks but he is going to repent going to spurs
http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2008/04/27/disbelief-as-spurs-snatch-modric-79310-20825955/
122 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:00
if your lot won the carling cup it would be like the queens coronation x 10 with the celebrations up in circus toon,you know it & everybody else does,a trophy is a trophy & it doesnt matter which 1,for the record i dont rate this present spurs team/squad but they are far closer to the top 4 then people might think
123 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:00
Veloso would be the perfect signing as he is a left footed DM and perfect compliment to the right footed AM Barton
Taylor and Faye big hairy arsed CBs no messing, SWP and McGeady bombing down the wings, Beye and Bridge overlapping and whipping in balls to Owen and Crouch who will score a hatful and compliment each other well with England
124 Jonathon Sadler // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:01
sign nasri and moutinho, 2 top quality attacking creative midfielders.
125 Ashton // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:01
We need four players for next season
CH - Amoribieta
DM - M’bia
CM - Aquilani
Big striker - Berbatov ( he is a geordie )
and mybe a back up LB - Konchesky but i think we dont need any fullbacks we already have Tozer Kadar and Edgar
126 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:02
Is no-one not really p##sed with spurs because if its goes through that is modric and woodgate that they have snatched from our grasp when a deal looked iminent!!!!!!!!! R we not meant to be challenging them for Uefa places next season and we let them get a world class midfielder ahead of us for the sake of a few million. COMPLETE BS
127 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:03
WE could have won the league cup about 3 times over under Bobby Robson but we were concentrating on getting into the Champions league and challenging for the title.
Same under Keegan or Dalglish we could have approx 6 League cup wins in the last 15 years.
If you ever finish above 5th mate you may find there are more pressing matters than the Carling Cup
128 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:05
Adie read this…
“Luka really wanted to go to Newcastle, but they would not pay more,†a source in Zagreb told the Sunday Sun.
“Dinamo asked for £25 million and also Modric wanted a little more money in wages – but not much more.
“So it is strange that the transfer with Tottenham would be agreed for much less money.â€
The guy is gutted that he is going to play infront of 39.000 fans at a club that spent weeks in the relegation zone… Ur upstairs guys where simply happy to pay that much, we werent… But keep telling yourself that your the better club, here in Denmark i can assure you that the general public as well as tv pundits and journalist’s see Newcasle as the biggest club by far, i doubt we even have a spurs supporters club over here.
Oh, and Berbatov sleeps in a Newcastle shirt and wishes he will play on our side next time we beat you 4-1 at your place.
129 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:08
money talks,we have 1 of the best yearly turnover revenue to wage bill in england at a modest 44%,we spend money that we generate,we are low wage payers compared to your club,we dont & never will have any player on a 100 000 a week because nobody is that good,its the club that is my 1st love,players come & go
130 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:11
Valle he wont be playing for them when be beat them at Shite Fart Lane
Berbatov to Man Utd £30m oh well youve still got Darren Bent and well let you have Alan Smith if you ask really nicely.
We have Owen, Martins, Viduka and we will sign another then the can scor 1 apiece next season against you
131 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:11
do you believe everything that you read,its paper talk bollox,its there business to sensationalise,if modric wanted to go to newcastle he would have gone to you,that is a fact,he choose spurs & it had nothing to do with money
132 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:12
Craig… Its not about throphies… Last year spurs fans claimed that they where the bigger club because they finished above us… Guess we’re bigger this year then. Now they are bigger because they won the carling cup… guess porthsmouth will be bigger than them if they win the FA-cup then… Its all bull, there is no doubt that we’re the bigger and stronger side, but the only reason that small time clubs as spurs can argue that is because we give them an oportunity by not living up to our own standards… A club like ours shouldnt let spurs get the chance to make us look bad by paying more than us and getting our target, and our guys should win more than they have done, no excuses.
133 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:13
And thats the reason you will never bridge the gap to the top 4
134 Dondatta13 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:14
A quote accredited to KK these past few days “You have to target big players, We’ll be in there pitching for some very good players. If you don’t bowl, you can’t knock the wickets down. We might get hit for six, but we might get a wicket.â€
Black & White Van (der Vaart) Man Please Kevin
135 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:15
“do you believe everything that you read,its paper talk bollox,its there business to sensationalise,if modric wanted to go to newcastle he would have gone to you,that is a fact,he choose spurs & it had nothing to do with money”
You know that how?… It smells like blind dreams to me.
Im gonna let you in on a secret… Money talks, and agents rule this game.
136 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:15
craig behave will you,6 league cups that you could & would have won?lol,you got to 2 cup finals in the late 90s & you know what happened there dont you?or could you have won those 2 finals as well if you really wanted to?ffs get real
137 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:17
Dondatta13… All of this could sound like KK and the upstairs arent on the same page… God help them if they do the Shephard and feed us off with emty lies… We wont take that again.
138 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:18
give me just 1 reason to why newcastle are a bigger or better than spurs?just 1
139 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:18
Aidi are you bored or something?
140 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:19
Adie… Does that carling cup make you guys bigger than us iyo?… If not please explain what it is that does, and where exactly you think spurs are placed in the biggest clubs in the EPL table…
141 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:19
Yes and i doubt Modric will be as good as they think as theyre other players will drag him down to theyre obsure level.
Ive been privilaged to see the real Jonathan Woodgate live on a few occasions (when he was fit) and he is an awesome defender who can organise the back four making poor players look good (Bramble and O’Brien) and Spurs already have made him look bad, they need a lot more than Modric to finish above us next season now were playing real football.
i would suggest about 8 more players
142 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:21
Fanbase, Economic power (The ability to have 100k a week players), stadium size, modern day champions league exp, better league finishes by far in the EPL history… Wanna hear more reasons?
143 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:21
i will give you two.
1. We have played on bigger stages than you (Champions League)
2. We have challenged for the premier League title
Spurs have never come close to either apart from that year when Arsenal were shocking…and they STILL beat you to 4th lol
144 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:23
Craigg… Modric is good, no doubt… But one player dosnt make a team, and we are not second in the form table for nothing… They can buy Kaka for all i care, we would still finish higher next season no doubt.
145 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:27
The difference is Adie that we played:
Arsenals double winning side in 98 cup final
Man Utds treble winning side 1n 99 cup final
Spurs played Leicester in 99 League Cup final
Blackburn in 02 League cup final
That is why if we had taken the League cup more seriously we could have won it on a few occasions because the standard of teams that have reached the final are low.
Would you swap your Cup final appearance in 2002 and 9th place finish for our 4th place and Champions league qualification
I think we both know the answer.
146 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:28
surely the criterea to what makes a club a big club is history,trophies & a strong fanbase,not stadium size,not a rich chairman etc,ps all you lot have done is coat spurs of for having the cheek to buy a player that we were always going to compete for whoever wanted him,ps no the carling cup isnt a big deal but its a start,but its still a trophy
147 toonarmy08 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:31
Adie skyers-get off this site -southern pr”^k.How sad you must be to come on this site ,whats up havent you got one ,probably not got enough true fans to have a blog site.See you next season when we sh$t all over you again.Oh yeh, when were you last in champ league ,and what you gona do with no Berbatov when he F%$ks off.Now get off -southern puff
148 faustino // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:31
Simple fact is that we all know who this ‘newcastle source’ is and he needs stringing up, he really does.
He makes the story up and when it falls through, works as hard as he can to cover it up with rubbish counter stories such as this. This was standard transfer business and we missed out due to the standard reasons.
The problem is, a stunted ageing man, who believes he is of some importance to the Toon, has tried to make himself look clever [as usual] via the vaguest sniff of a rumour [as usual], got it wrong [as per bl**dy usual] and, I believe, ran to the NOTW [as per usual] in a bid to save some face; stoking patheic ‘rumour milling’ that some reaction has occured from KK, in lieu of the problem that never really existed - as we can see above.
149 Andy1 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:32
Man United’s treble winning side of 99
150 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:33
owen on a 100 000 a week is not what makes you a big club,its was a shocking bit of business & no sell on value,yes we bought bent but he has a sell on value & isnt on half of what owens on,i wouldnt swap any trophy for a champs league at present because we simply couldnt compete at present,it takes time to build a side & that is what ramos will do
151 Spyro // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:35
Bent is on 94k aint he? lol
152 Andy1 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:36
How dare you even compare Owen and Bent. Different leagues. Owen has 10 prem goals this season - 6 in 6 from midfield - showing why he is worth the money
153 1toon // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:37
why is ronaldinho not been mentioned?
he is clearly better than modric and is around about the same money, if king kev is looking to show the rest of the world he means business then ronaldinho is the ideal option
154 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:37
i will leave this site,mocking a club that will make a near 20 million profit on a centre forward is laughable,what will we do with all that money,pay of our debts or replace him with some1 with equal ability,take your pick,im leaving your little goldfish bowl lol
155 Dondatta13 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:37
valle mate, If KK and Wise & Co arent on the same page … And Ashley wont back KK …. Kev will walk, simple as that. He’s done it before when we were a great side. If he feels like he’s being messed about, he will be off mans. There would be hell on.
156 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:39
Ok… History Spurs League wins 2… Newcastle league wins 4… Spurs FA Cups 8… Newcastle FA cups 6… Spurs Euro cups 3… Newcastle Euro cups 3… So we have 2 more titles, and you have 2 more FA cups (Surely the titles is worth more?)… In regards to fanbase, we both know that Newcastle is bigger, so in your words…
157 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:41
We’re mocking and club that has made DARREN BENT the 19th highest paid player in the world your ‘20 million’ profit will be gone in his wages alone hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
158 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:41
Premiership Seasons:
NU TH
93-94: 3rd 15th
94-95 : 6th 7th
95-96: 2nd 8th
96-97: 2nd 10th
97-98: 13th 14th
98-99: 13th 11th
99-00: 11th 10th
00-01: 11th 12th
01-02: 4th 9th
02-03: 3rd 10th
03-04: 5th 14th
04-05: 14th 10th
05-06: 7th 5th
i think i would rather have a division1 title, An Intertoto Cup and constant european football than 2 league cups wouldnt you.
159 valle // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:43
and adie runs off when the facts hit the table… lol
160 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:46
Ramos wont last 5 minutes you got through more managers than us in the past 20 years.
161 toonarmy08 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:47
hey adie-you ever beat barcelona in champ league lol you joker cheerio
162 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:47
anyone that believes bent is on 94k a week needs locking up,ffs do you believe everything you read,keane is our top earner on 60 000 tops, fanwise we have the 4th biggest in this country just under 2 million,go & check if you must
163 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:52
adie do you believe everything you read, your only a small team in london, small team in looooooondahhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnn. wer you from anyway
164 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:52
Do you honestly believe from Ramos time at Spurs that things will get better, We know it will under Keegan.
Master tactition Wankday Ramos
Spurs 2-0 pompey playing 442
Week later
Spurs 1-4 Toon changes to 433
How many clubs has Ramos been sacked from,
He’s like Frank Spencer but a lot ugglier
165 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:52
the mid 90s were your hay day & you still won f**k all,how the f**k do you lose a 12 point lead in april lol,we wont ever win the prem because of the current format but we will always win a few cups along the way,the question is will you?
166 scott9 // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:54
i wud go for ( i no im dreaming a bit but after finding out we were close to signing modric u never now i never thought we wud hav a chance)
van deer vart
diego
daniel carvalhio
schwienstieger
veloso wud also be a good signing for dmf
167 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:55
you go on about this 4 -1 scoreline against a very average & unmotivated side?big deal it did no damage to our season it was all ready over,would i take keegan over a ramos lol,would you? ps im from upminster in essex
168 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:56
No they aint beat Barca, Juve or drew in the san siro in the Champions league
but they beat Slavia Prague in the UEFA Cup
169 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 20:59
I would have the king every day of the week Ramos is a flukey jester who some how keeps on being given Chances a bit like Bryan Robson.
Keegan has done brilliant every club he has managed
Ramos shite everywhere except Sevill and will be sacked next seson youll want garden gnome Jol back
170 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:04
ok then craigg,you keep your jester & we will keep ours,if you get within 10 points of spurs next year you would have done well,the only player id take from your side is taylor at a push,we aint that good,but the 1 thing that we do that dont do is we retain the ball better,have fun chasing your superstars
171 Avram Grant // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:05
If I were Modric I wouldn’t shower alone when Jenas is about…….
172 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:06
been sacked after 6 games for betis, 2 months with rayo vallacano and he holds a record for being sacked most times, shows quite abit of dignity i suppose.
173 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:07
that coming from a plastic rentboy that has a ashley cole in there team?
174 Andy1 // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:10
Juande Ramos’ managerial record:
Tottenham Hotspur 36 18 9 9 50.00 %
Sevilla 2005 - 2007 117 66 27 24 56.41%
Málaga 2003 -2004 38 15 6 17 39.47 %
Espanyol 2002 - 2002 5 0 1 4 6.67 %
Real Betis 2001 2002 38 15 14 9 39.47%
RayoVallecano 1998 2001 118 44 34 40 37.28
Lleida 1997 1998 42 18 9 15 42.85 %
Barcelona B 1996 1997 38 7 13 18 18.42%
Logroñés 1995 1996 38 20 9 9 52.63 %
Levante 1994 1995 - - - - -
Alcoyano 1993 1994 - -
Longest he’s lasted is 3 years. Averages about a year. Some pretty shit win percentages too. Top Manager.
175 Avram Grant // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:10
correction “an” Ashley Cole……
I don’t see Chevyll complaining……
176 Avram Grant // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:12
Sir Alex came to see me after the game…I thought he was going to fookin explode.
177 Geordie Gerrard7 // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:15
just everyone stop speaking to the plastic cockney whos mum and missus are probably bikes, as they are from essex.
anyway, did anyone see senna’s goal for villareal?
178 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:17
The only player we would take from you is Berbatov but he isnt going to be used to take for much longer is he
I would have said Woodgate but you ruined him with your cockney initiation ceremonies like sticking hot pokers up his arse and making him lie down while ramos sits on his face.
179 adie skyers // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:19
keegan doesnt get the sack because the headless wonder walks before getting the boot,please do tell me what king kevin has won as a manager?& i dont mean 3rd,2nd division titles,the only club that matters when you are trying to belittle ramos is seville,
180 apan // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:21
ramos stats was ok, not that impressive but remember he did won the uefa cup twice and challenges barcelona and real madric for top spot for 2 seasons in row, thats where he got the recognition
but we will top them off next season, again this season we will do the same
181 CRAIGG // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:23
Spot on the only club that matters with ramos is seville
IE the only club with loads of cash to spend and won what the UEFA Cup twice in fianls against Boro and Espanyol, Id love to see him beat Bayern Munich this season
Then what Copa del rey beating the on a shoe string Getafe who beat Sperms in europe for a laugh
The guy is a tit
182 Toon1978 // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:32
HAHAHAHA ADDIE the geordies are taking the p.ss out of you FFS you bite every time. Go on ya own blogs and you will have nothing to argue about.
183 Hammy // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:34
What’s a spuds fan doing on a toon blog with over 4 million hits? maybe his amstrad computer has sent him to the wrong site?
184 Hammy // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:36
Where is Midd the Yidd anyway, thought that moron would have shown up by now for some more abuse….
185 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:40
Seville were a big club before ramos came I think you’ll find.
186 Hammy // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:42
Shame about Jimmy Greaves.
187 JC // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:46
Alot of homegrown players played for the team its not as if he built the team from the ground up like keegan did the last time he was here. Fair enough he brought in kanoute and alves but not exactly a brillant because half the team was already there but he did do well don’t get me wrong. Similar to man city at the start of the season.
188 Oba // Apr 27, 2008 at 21:52
Guys, guys, guys. Who’ve got to be more realistic with these transfer targets. Spouting the likes of Diego, VDV, Toulalan, and of all people AGUERO?!? None of these are realistic, and f**k me, if we get them it would be a huge shock. It aint going to happen. Think about it from a players perspective. We can’t offer them European football, and that’s our biggest disadvantage in the transfer market. It’s a shame because I believe if this Modric rumour was true, he would have chosen us over Spurs. Unfortunately it’s not the case, and also London is an attraction to many outsiders, especially eastern europeans, i.e. Modric.
Our only saving grace is the money we can offer to players, but I don’t want us to be spending millions and millions on players that would chose a club just because of money. That’s not my idea of moving forward, they’d show little effort and a prime example is Sidwell. If we get him I will quite possibly kill myself, he is clearly content in sitting on the Chelsea bench week in, week out, getting paid however much he is.
These are the type of players I can see us getting, realistically, considering that we can offer them first team football, but not on the european stage;
- Crouch - Underrated, undervalued, and underused. He’s good, no doubt about it. Okay, a bit gangly but has talent.
- Bridge - Same as Crouch really. Both aren’t playing regularly enough, and are decent players that we can realistically attract. English as well.
- Bentley - Don’t like him, at all, but he’s ability is awesome. Won’t be in Europe next year, I don’t think, and could be attracted to us.
As for the AMC role that I think we need, I can see us attracting Arshavin, but only for a small fee. It would be a big risk paying the sort of money Spurs have for this player. If no-one else is interested, especially London clubs, then I can see him being the obvious choice. Good player as well.
189 iain // Apr 27, 2008 at 22:06
ed can you just stop this bickering and close this discussion ??? i like many i reckon didnt start using your blog to have playground arguments with oposition fans. quite the oposite the fact its been largely free of agrro with other clubs fans has whats kept me using it daily.
dont let your log be dragged down like so many football messagee boards.
addie im sure your just wanting to defend your club like all of us would and i do agree some of teh stuff written on here about spurs has made even me laugh and cringe at how stupid it has been. but your tone hasnt helped and you frankly you aint gong to get a reasoned argument teh way this discusion is heading are you.
id just pack it in trying to score points on another clubs blog is pointless really. im sure you be welcome back here when this arse of a discussion has finished as long as your not being childish and simply intent on winding anyone up.
if thats the case i suggest ed just bans you from posting.
190 Andy1 // Apr 27, 2008 at 22:31
Well said Iain.
191 Agathon Sachs // Apr 27, 2008 at 22:37