Sam Allardyce Wanted To Sell Oba Martins

Wednesday May 14th, 2008 by Ed Harrison· 106 Comments

It turns out that Sam Allardcye wanted to sell Oba Martins last July.

Oba Martins - big favorite on Tyneside

When Keegan was asked today, if he had received a bid for Oba Martins, Kevin told the Evening Chronicle:

“I haven’t, no, but I want to keep all my players and add to them if I can.”

“Anyone that goes will be a bit of a blow, especially if something like that happens late on in the summer.”

“However, Arsenal have definitely not approached me.”

Newcastle United paid £10M for Martins in the summer of 2006, and that’s turned out to be really good deal for Newcastle.

And the Chronicle is reporting the transfer fee is to be paid over 5 seasons, and Newcastle are now said to owe around £6M for him.

Sam Allardyce was prepared to sell the Nigerian international at the end of July, but there were no clubs that were interested at that time.

The Chronicle is reporting that Oba was aware of all of these goings on last summer, so we think Martins has done just a great job, to keep playing in the way he did last season, when under Big Sam, he was definitely second fiddle to Michael Owen.

But the genius of Kevin now has him starting every game, alongside his captain Michael Owen and Mark Viduka, and we’re sure that Keegan and Newcastle will not sell Oba now. That would be madness.

We want Oba Martins, Michael Owen, Steven Taylor and also Charles N’Zogbia at the club next season.

The only one we may lose of that quartet could be Charles N’Zogbia, and it’s right that he should go, if he decides he doesn’t want to be at the club.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Charles N'Zogbia

106 responses so far ↓

1 yet_another_indian_toon // May 14, 2008 at 14:25

Thankfully, Fat Sam’s plan for creating a Bolton of the Nort East has flopped miserably. Went quite close to becoming that….

muahahahahahaha
2 Ant (Smith's a smoggy) // May 14, 2008 at 14:25

Sell Martins?

Sign Nolan?

A sound transfer policy.

No wonder Oba was considering leaving us.

Sam Allardyce - Prick.
3 ScottyT // May 14, 2008 at 14:28

fat sham - what a fat idiot he was. one of our most exciting players so obviously he wanted to sell him to get some much needed boredom into the team. thank god hes gone.

id keep oba, owen, taylor for sure but get rid of zog he just causes trouble and unrest and doesnt want to be here. gd riddance to him i say unless he improves his attitude and wants to stay.
4 Hamas (51times) // May 14, 2008 at 14:28

Oba is a Geordie
5 Ant (Smith's a smoggy) // May 14, 2008 at 14:29

I’ll second that Hamas.

And repeat it 51 times.
6 craig chisholm // May 14, 2008 at 14:41

i would liek to keep owen and oba but to be honest, if it came to a push, i would sell owen over oba. lets hope we can have oba, owen and crouch in attack next season. iwould liekthat alot. plus get SWP on the right and zogs on the left. barton in the middle and a-n-other top draw player maker alongside barton. the back four aint too bad which is a change for us to say that! maybe harper instead of given perhaps? we need to dump emre, smith, ameobi, rozza, viduka and one or two more high earning twats.
7 daniel // May 14, 2008 at 14:45

Im so relieved fat sam has gone, I can imagine where we would be if he was still in charge. Our team would probably be: Jaaskelainen, Hunt, O’Brien, Cahill, Samuel, Diouf, Gardner, McCann, Nolan, Campo and Davies. God that line-up makes me cringe!
8 ObaFan2 // May 14, 2008 at 14:46

I could tell Oba had no confidence in Fat Sham so this news doesn’t surprise me.

Credit to Oba for his character and ability to carry on the way he has this season. After his first season and 17 goals he should have been given a chance to kick on and improve, instead the then manager did all he could imo to knock any confidence out of him.

Oba is a Geordie and hope to God it stays that way
9 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 14:47

I hope Keegan doesn’t really mean that he wants to keep “all” of his players. He must be able to see that some members of the squad…Smith, Emre, Ameobi and maybe Duff are either not good enough or are not pulling their weight.

But i’m so pleased to hear this reassurance from Keegan that he wants Martins to stay. A definite future Legend!

Also i think fat Sam disliked Martins coz he absolutely tore apart his beloved Bolton at the start of the season!
10 Julio Geordio // May 14, 2008 at 14:51

This is another example of why the top clubs are clammering to employ Big Sam.

Oh……..hold on…….
11 broon ale // May 14, 2008 at 14:57

my comments arent posting anymore. this is a test
12 broon ale // May 14, 2008 at 14:58

vote for player of the season

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10278,00.html
13 Mehzeb // May 14, 2008 at 14:59

Test successful, broon ale.
14 broon ale // May 14, 2008 at 15:00

does this site not let us post links to other websites? if it doesnt i can explain that i was posting a link to nufc.co.uk so that we can all cast our votes for player of the season. the voting section is at the bottom right hand corner of the home page. My vote went to Habib Beye.
15 Ross // May 14, 2008 at 15:02

Sams just a fat mess.
he’d have made our club the same thing had he had the chance.
a fat, boring mess. Thank god he facked aff when he did .
oba is a geordie.
16 stk // May 14, 2008 at 15:05

Thank the gods we aint Boltyne FC no more, i gave sam my backing as we all did and he just shat all over us with his arrogance and ineptitude. he’s still casting the sympathy vote fom some sections of the mental asylums up and down the land, which is quite unbelievable
17 Dag // May 14, 2008 at 15:09

Martines is a must, with Owen and another striker, (think Viduka is past his or should he stay to come off bench) ashton would be a good one?
18 Leo // May 14, 2008 at 15:16

i think its good the way martins has acted through all of this, he could easily said right ladsa i wonna go but hes worked hard and stuck to it
19 mathewS.africa1988 // May 14, 2008 at 15:20

Howay lads. Wanted to get some opinions on signing one the chels mids-mikel, kalou, swp.. There is no doubt chelski will be bringin in some world class mids in the summer which will imo lead to these 3 not playin much.. Also wat about pizzaro on the cheap to fill vidukas place- he is big and strong and a good point of attack for oba and mo.. Wat you guys think?
20 Ant (Smith's a smoggy) // May 14, 2008 at 15:22

broon ale, cheers for the heads-up, I rarely visit the official site these days.

My vote went to Oba for his ability to pick up our team on his own and blast the other team to smithereens.

Good times ahead with that lad. Beye was a close 2nd.
21 Eric // May 14, 2008 at 15:24

So glad that no-brainer Wham bam thank you mam fat Sam the sham has gone. Full of shite. He should be banned from SJP permanently.
22 Nick C // May 14, 2008 at 15:27

Is everyone watching the UEFA Cup Final tonight? Can’ t help but feeling jealous having been at both the Velodrome in Marseille and Sporting Lisbon.
However, would like to see the Gers nick it…
23 Hamas (51times) // May 14, 2008 at 15:30

Come on the Gers, the cry was no surrender…

Also did any of you ever notice that watching Rodrigo Palacio compilations on youtube is better than a one night stand?
24 HeronMag // May 14, 2008 at 15:36

Oba Martins performed for Allardyce whenever he was called on. I can’t believe he was contemplating selling him! Bolton could never dream of signing a player like Oba and he just wants to kick him out of Newcastle!?

God I’m glad KK is back.

The excitement is beginning to set in already for the new season. Keegan has always done well in the transfer market… Who’s next for the toon!?!

I can’t wait!
25 seetow // May 14, 2008 at 15:38

craig chrisholm i agree with you on that.

if it came to a choice between oba and owen, i’d pick oba over owen anyday. he’s younger, faster, and has more potential than owen had or may have, and most importantly, as hamas said 51 times, he is a geordie, one of us.
26 Tamas (15Himes) // May 14, 2008 at 15:40

Aye Hamas Rodrigo Palacio is the sex like
27 valle // May 14, 2008 at 15:43

michael… Anything new on the insider info you had?
28 HeronMag // May 14, 2008 at 15:46

Seetow - I just can’t agree with you that Oba has more potential then Owen ever had.

Michael Owen achieved at the age of 17 more than Oba has ever done. His goal against Argentina signalled the arrival of one of the best marksmen the English game has ever seen (or ever will see in my opinion).

Owen IS world class. Oba could be. I love Martins. He is such an exciting player… But he lacks the class and finesse of Owen. (I hope he proves me wrong on this one)

Anyone who says Owen is past it is a fool. He may have lost a few yards of pace but he is still most instinctive goalscorer at this club.
29 Eric // May 14, 2008 at 15:48

It just shows you the lunacy that whistled in between Sam Shallowgrave’s two brain cells. He chewed on on gum as though it was the arse end of an elephant. He would have relegated us. Sell Martins? How mad can you get? Was Fat Sam receiving brown envelopes from the Daily Mail or something? Our best player for years is Oba!
30 valle // May 14, 2008 at 15:48

well im not gonna add to that discussion… You already know what im going to say anyway… Lets just say i dont agree

oops, while i wrote Heronmag has just posted my thoughts exactly… cheers
31 drh // May 14, 2008 at 15:57

why the downer on little emre?

does anyone on here actually follow football? admit, that since he has been here we haven’t seen much of him, mainly (this season) due to injury. However, before comgin in under defence minded coaches he was a mid field string puller and I am sure we will see more of this at the euros when he gets a chance to show all he can do in the middle. I for one hope he stays, he is a keegan player and I am sure he will have seen that and told him his plans for the team and the little turk!

Emre is a Geordie!
32 Stewpot // May 14, 2008 at 15:58

And me Hamas!
33 ScottyT // May 14, 2008 at 16:04

emre is a geordie..

..who seems to miraculously recover for turkey after being injured for newcastle for most the season. somthing is wrong there hes a gd player bt he either cba to play for us or his injuries come at a time that means he misses only toon matches.. coincedence?
34 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 16:05

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3566036,00.html

check that out guys.

We could be one of the clubs after Zarate. Most think he is over priced at 15m but we where going to pay more than that for Modric. I don’t think you could get a better quality youngster for less. What do you guys think?
35 Leo // May 14, 2008 at 16:17

i think most fans shiver when it comes to the thought of bringing players in from chelsea because big name signings usually dont perform, however if the name was SWP i would likely be dancing on the ceiling and showing my @rse in fenwicks window because he would be unbelievably good

pizzaro hasnt really cut it in the premiership and may have a point to prove to people, if he was cheap might be worth it, i would much prefer dean ashton though who is playing well recently
36 Ant (Smith's a smoggy) // May 14, 2008 at 16:24

Agree leo, SWP is as under-rated as they come.

He plays well in just about every game he gets for the blus and England and still struggles for first-team football.

SWP 4 SJP!!

He’s better than Lennon before anyone says any different.
37 staffsmag // May 14, 2008 at 16:25

Fat Sam = W*nker - ’nuff said !!!!! Howay the lads !
38 Ian // May 14, 2008 at 16:28

The difference between Martins and Owen is Martins has an excellent future, Owen has a brilliant past, we arent here to pay for the past, if Owen stays he may be brilliant again or maybe not, I hope he stays and I hope he is.

Anyhow we are looking at Diane who is supposed to be a similar stamp to Martins, has a couple of chums at the club and would like to play alongside Owen and rates Martins.

Also the big one for me Newcastle and Bolton are looking at Djibril Cisse, if that man is on form and he has averaged since 2002 11 goals a season in top class football, everyone will be forgetting about Owen, and Martins will need everything he has to keep pace with that player as he is probably a little quicker than even Martins is, but he is tall and dangerous in the box too.
39 HeronMag // May 14, 2008 at 16:29

I’ll join up to the SWP appreciation society! He is an awesome, classic KK style player.
40 Reformed_Mumbler // May 14, 2008 at 16:38

No we don’t want ‘kin N’Zogbia at the club. The dorty little wind-up merchant was lucky not to get pasted by Faye and if Shearer was still playing for wus, he’d definitely would have sparked the little tit out.

The fecker.
41 scott9 // May 14, 2008 at 16:39

i do not belive for 1 minute thatallardyce wanted to sell him i think its just peper talk
42 Yahya Ahamd // May 14, 2008 at 16:46

If Real Zaragoza get relegated, then we could go and try to sign Pablo Aimar because he wouldnt like to play in second division!
43 Taiwantoon // May 14, 2008 at 16:46

What a surprise. Didn’t like big sam as our manager, but thought he was a okay manager overall.
Just couldn’t imagine he was trying to sell one of our greatest asset! He deserves every right to be sacked.
44 Charlie Bucket // May 14, 2008 at 16:52

Zarate is in talks with two top Premier League teams.

Pray one of them is us
45 Bill F // May 14, 2008 at 16:53

Yeah I would sign up for the SWP appreciation society.

Is Arshavin and (see if I can get this right) Pogryniak playing tonight. I reckon Rangers will have to play out of their skins to get a result tonight (unless Zenit have an off night). The way Zenit destroyed Bayern was awesome.
46 spen27 // May 14, 2008 at 16:56

its hard to beleev no1 wud want to sign oba after his debut season
47 Bill F // May 14, 2008 at 16:56

As For Zog it is just as well it wasn’t Joey he was upsetting. He would still be having his ba*ls removed from his throat at casualty.
48 Punk Skunk // May 14, 2008 at 16:57

Pogrebnyak i think Bill,
Reckon Zenit will kill rangers the neet!..
…Let’s have Arshavin & Pog!..
Tymoschuk is pretty good too!..
49 daniel // May 14, 2008 at 17:06

Wright Phillips, Wright Phillips, Wright Phillips
50 daniel // May 14, 2008 at 17:07

Wright Philips.
51 Andreas // May 14, 2008 at 17:16

Scott9, could that be ’cause you are one hardcore SA-lover? I think I have seen you post defence comments for SA all this year (and if I’m wrong I beg your pardon).
52 Bob // May 14, 2008 at 17:19

What are the odds that we are after Zarate…. and Tottenham are trying to steal him from under our noses?
53 scottish mag // May 14, 2008 at 17:36

bill f Pogrebnyak is banned as he got booked v bayern but arshavin has returned from suspension

and man city are going to go for arshavin as well, him being there tonight would give them a great chance to watch him

http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=695229
54 Dunc // May 14, 2008 at 17:43

BSA is a c()ck.

I notice he has taken to punditry in his absense from mangement.

After the way he managed Newcastle he has some neck to go and comment on the TV. The only thing he should be on is

“I’m a cr4p football manager, get me out of here”

Hosted by Roy Keane and Niall Quinn the pair of n()bs.

Oba was lucky to get any playing time out of the cock becasue his preference was Alan “Sh1tty” Smith. And is it any wonder that Smith is the closest we had or he could get that was close to being a Nolan/ Davies type player?

Let’s hope KK has him stay and we make some good additions for the new season

SWP needs to learn to cross a ball better than I can, it’s ok being exciting but does the end product come with form and games played? If we sign him I hope so.

From what I remember when we used to see SWP ( before he joined Chelsea’s back room staff) he was exciting and can take a player or two for fools, but his end product wasn’t great.
55 Pete // May 14, 2008 at 18:04

Quick read this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=566219&in_page_id=1779

HAHAHAHAHA
56 domtoon // May 14, 2008 at 18:37

I wanted to like Allardyce for the pure fact he was our gaffer, but there was always this nagging feeling that he was actually a big fat pile of turd, based mostly on the negative feeling growing within me every time I went to see a game played under him. The crowd were their usual selves in their cheering the team on, but, there was this horrible feeling deep within. This story, if true, does nothing but reinforce my belief deep down that BFS was a waste of space!
57 ToonKing // May 14, 2008 at 18:44

so…. any decent transfer news today ??

hope KK will be at the cup final today and get us Arshavin………and while he’s at it there are a couple other players he could get us, Cuellar, Pogrebnyak, Tymoschuk and maybe Aleksandr Anyukov as backup for Beye and Shirokov to back up Butt or his replacement.
58 Luke // May 14, 2008 at 18:53

And Dmisfsdf Alexidfnsdfiwls with Nicolasefdex Victosdmwkls to boot.
59 ToonKing // May 14, 2008 at 19:03

rofl
60 liamtoonbirchy // May 14, 2008 at 19:09

geordie gerrard got any more news on veloso?

also the 4 youngsters from palace looked good moses, scannell, soares and watson looked quality over the 2 legs.

i hope we are tryin to get zarate and i hope king kev gets SWP and brings back his flair from city days.
61 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 19:45

just that news in portugal is that us and man u have made bids for two individual players from sporting, meaning, one has made a move for veloso the other made one for moutinho me thinks
62 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 19:46

bostock is signing for spurs
63 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 19:52

i really hope we do get arshavin, he is qaulity
64 Ant // May 14, 2008 at 19:57

Anyone else watyching Uefa Cup?

Rangers truly are shoddy.
65 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 19:59

yer i am, should be 1-1. feguson and arshavin both should have scored
66 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 20:02

we should have tymoschuck, veloso and barton in a 3 man midfeield, would battle very hard for the team, tymoschuck would tackle, veloso would create and barton the willing runner,
67 Ant // May 14, 2008 at 20:09

Swap Barton for milner and im in GG
68 geordie nick // May 14, 2008 at 20:18

sounds good to me geordie gerrard, how bout those 3 with arshavin playin in the hole behind 2 strikers of either martins, owen and gomis?
69 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 20:23

that would be class, but i think martins gomis and owen would all compliment each other greatly.i have to say im not a big fan of milner, i like the lad but just doesnt seem to cut it, if we could get 8 mill each for zogs and jiimy milner than we should snap there hands off
70 Hadrian // May 14, 2008 at 20:24

wouldnt expect anything more than a bit part from viduka next season , cant see him staying fit , so back to 442 i hope !!
wingers , lightning quick wingers ! thats what we need !
71 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 20:30

___________Harper____________

Beye____Taylor___Faye____Enrique

___________Veloso____________ SWP____________________N’Zogbia
___________Owen_____________

_______Gomis____Martins_______

Bench - Given, Dunne, Shorey, Barton, Milner, Viduka, Zarate
72 geordie nick // May 14, 2008 at 20:34

kkk- seven subs allowed next season
73 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 20:36

Cheers Geordie Nick!
74 Readig Mag // May 14, 2008 at 20:51

Ed- Would you mind, mailing me. I have just showed me dad your profile and you have both been at the same schools, youth teams, work and obviuosly intersts. He mentioned Dave Young was your age and you must be aWalker boy.
75 robertsa // May 14, 2008 at 20:58

——————–given——————–
beye—-CUELLAR—-taylor—-RIISE
—-ARSHAVIN–barton—-milner—-
——–owen—-martins–GOMIS——-

bench: DUNNE, faye, KAPO,kadar,BUFELL

BUFFEL-RANGERS-1MILLION
DUNNE-MANCITY-5MILLION
KAPO-BIRMINGHAM-4MILLION
CUELLAR-RANGERS-10MILLION
RIISE-LIVERPOOL-2MILLION
ARSHAVIN-ZENIT-12MILLION
GOMIS-Saint-Etienne-18MILLION

52 MILLION THATS WHAT ID DO
76 geordie nick // May 14, 2008 at 21:04

10m for cuellar????? no chance
77 Tom_Toon // May 14, 2008 at 21:06

Buffel?!?!?!? Ahahah, talk about no ambition.

18 mil for Gomis? Ye, put a decimal point inbetween the 1 and the 8.
78 rob1892 // May 14, 2008 at 21:46

arshavin was quality 2nd half tonight…..get him in
79 ronaldeano // May 14, 2008 at 21:47

Get in there Hull!

I hope Phil Brown takes them up!
80 rob1892 // May 14, 2008 at 21:48

would also agree with swp…we need pace in midfield desperatly
81 Danny // May 14, 2008 at 21:48

Get Arshavin now….He won the match for Zenit tonight!
82 rob1892 // May 14, 2008 at 21:54

i always thought phil brown was a scumderland supporter so im cheering bristol city on lol
83 ronaldeano // May 14, 2008 at 22:00

@rob1982, He is a Skumberland fan mate, he is a realy close family friend. Pity he supports ‘them’ but he is a top bloke
84 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 22:05

bristol city are my scond fav team as all my mates support them and work in bristol alot, so im happy for them, but i dont think there good enough to do anything other than battle the drop
85 ronaldeano // May 14, 2008 at 22:09

@GG, that is normaly the case with evry team that goes up in the playoffs. I hope Hull go up, they have some decent players, plus, its only a 2 hour drive to the away game!
86 John // May 14, 2008 at 22:21

oooo my god…Just seen how good arshavin is…

we need to get this player. He said already he’s interested..lets move fast before its too late….
87 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 22:25

When did he say this John?
88 loplop // May 14, 2008 at 22:26

we must sign arshavin! he won the cup for zenit this morning.
doubt he’d come though

that Tymoschuk looked pretty good aswell
89 Nick C // May 14, 2008 at 22:26

Arshavin looked truly class in the 2nd half tonight. However, I can’t imagine him coming here. There will be bigger fish sniffing around him, no doubt.
90 Hammy // May 14, 2008 at 22:31

I doubt many top managers would have watched
Arshavin star in the cup final……….not.
91 John // May 14, 2008 at 22:31

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06122007/4/arshavin-eyes-newcastle-switch.html
92 MathewS.africa1988 // May 14, 2008 at 22:32

The fact that zenit won tonight i think affects the chances of us gettin arshavin. He has tasted european success and wont likely come to a club not offerin europe next year, also he will be on a wishlist of afew other clubs aswell who can offer europe. Wat does any1 think about manuel fernanes, he impressed these last 7 or so games for everton after the injuries to arteta and cahill, he is also only on loan. Should be available at about 8 mil. Good Addition?
93 KKK // May 14, 2008 at 22:33

After just winning the UEFA cup i really can’t see Arshavin coming to us when we have no European football next year. Could see him at Man City.
94 John // May 14, 2008 at 22:34

for some reason it wont let me put the link on..If you go to google and type arshavin to newcastle it will show some off the comments he made in January when we weresniffing round..

He said he would be ineterested in a move to England and Newcastle is a big club.
95 Hammy // May 14, 2008 at 22:37

Reebok have just brought out some skin fit ladies cycling shorts called “Mumblers”
You can see the lips move but can’t understand a word the c*nt is saying……..
96 nightfall // May 14, 2008 at 22:47

damn..arshavin is good… wise, do your magic!
97 Nev // May 14, 2008 at 22:48

if we dont attempt to sign Arshavin i will be dissapointed
98 IrishMan // May 14, 2008 at 22:52

Geordie Gerrard7, how about Lee Trundle for Toon - 3M for 12 goals a season for next 2-3 seasons?
99 John // May 14, 2008 at 22:52

Nightfall, i hav’nt seen Wise do any magic at all since he’s been with us..Don’t think Wise and Magic should be in the same sentence
100 geordie nick // May 14, 2008 at 22:55

kkk- if he wont come to us cos of no european football why wud he go to man city, they hav no euro football either
101 Geordie Gerrard7 // May 14, 2008 at 23:08

no he wouldnt get that in the prem, i think we will find if bristol get into the prem he will find himself back at swansea, thats what the talk is irishman
102 Nev // May 14, 2008 at 23:51

trundle is great, but hes nearly 32
he would of been an intresting signing 2 years ago
103 KKK // May 15, 2008 at 6:50

did Man City not get into europe through the fair play league?
104 Ausgeordie // May 15, 2008 at 8:47

Crouch 11.5 Mill
Arshavin 11.5 Mill
SWP 7 Mill
Bridge 4.5 MIll
Dunne 5 Mill

Spend 39 mill

Sell
Smith 4 MIll
Ameobi - 4 Mill
Zogbia - 9 MIll
Roz 2.5 Mill

Total 19.5 Mill
19.5 Mill total spend

Thats how you should spend your twenty mill. Get some kids out on loan fast for six months. Use more of Lua Lua, Edgar, Carroll and Kadar
105 andy // May 15, 2008 at 18:08

Ausgeordie …. like the way you think
106 Obafan // May 15, 2008 at 20:18

I would be dancing on the ceiling when we got Arshavin; he really is top class.

FSA has to be ashamed if the news is true that he wanted to sell Oba. And I would not be that surprised if this news was true, vcause every time Oba was subbed or had to sit on the bench

I can’t think of what would have happenned if that f*t creep was still the manager of our beloved team.